Hello all, Why is the application template for xGov proposals so generalised and loose? I see the proposals all have different formats. Why? I think the xgovs and the rest of community are aware by now how 95% of all these proposals are completely useless or redundant, or just simply not effective …

Will the community be able to assist in rule creation?

Retroactive funding removes all the responsibility from builders to make these proposals, which often are completely lacking in real substance, and a total shot in the dark at what sort of value they’ll deliver. While I would debate the points above, I think it should just be nuked in favor of an RP…

@fisherman.algo There is nothing in the xGov rules precluding any builder from submitting a funding request for something that they already built or are building. A few approved grants would fall into the retroactive category. I assume you find xGov so terrible because we are not forbidding non-pu…

Thanks @ALGOnumberone for creating this thread, we are indeed in need for an overhaul of the proposal template. I agree with all your points. We are def working to improve the template. We have two types of grants: build and educate. These need different templates, as they deliverables will vary. W…

Just because it’s possible to get a retroactive grants thru Xgov doesn’t mean it’s substantial, efficient or effective. It’s a lot more than just me saying it sucks. I believe I outlined this in my blog which was in depth on why RPGF works significantly better than w/e Xgov is. I know Xgov is a pil…

No, it is not effective yet, we will get there tho. The pilot is doing its job of uncovering the issues that we need to solve for. Your blog is reflects one opinion, yours. A community is made of many opinions. My opinion is that, nobody is forcing builders to apply for funding through xGov, they …

[image] Adri: My opinion is that, nobody is forcing builders to apply for funding through xGov, they can crowdfund, get funding angel investors, join an accelerator, bootstrap etc. Each of these have pros and cons. Builders are choosing to apply for a grant because it might be the most convenien…

I understand you, but it seems that you don’t want to understand that xGov is the first step.

I understand it’s the current system, and systems should change when they’re realized to be horribly inefficient… I don’t understand how you can admit it’s inefficient, yet cling onto it like there’s anything of value to be salvaged. We cannot afford to delay these changes by months to years either…

I’ve acknowledged it needs to change, and I’ve confirmed that it is indeed changing. I don’t, however, succumb to FUD. I’m going to end here, bc I don’t feel that this is a constructive conversation.

Ideas to improve the existing funding applications template?

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fisherman.algo February 21, 2024, 6:20pm 25

Hey Adri,

Could you please take a look at this prior to the twitter spaces so we can discuss it?

Thank you!
John

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